pannatic

Wednesday, March 15, 2023

Why are there a lot of people who think the scene was unnecessary?

It's not just the typical topless scene. In the show, Choi Hyejeong is a character who's described as conceited and the only thing she can be proud of is her breast. That topless scene shows that she feels superior because of it.

Have they considered the producer's intention behind that scene before saying things like this?

'When will Korean men producers stop assaulting rookie actresses by adding unnecessary nude scenes only because they want to see their breasts?'

pann

[+926][-204]

1. [+459][-250] Frankly speaking, that scene was not that necessary... Not to the point they had to add CG to isㅋㅋ

2. [+265][-7] Stop saying only Twitter users think so. Just until yesterday, I saw a lot of similar posts here in Pannㅋ

3. [+220][-4] I don't think Twitter users are the ones to blame here. I saw a lot of similar posts here in Pannㅋㅋㅋㅋ

4. [+217][-29] I think they could've just cut the scene to where she takes off the shirt and throws it to Park Yeonjin. They didn't need to show her breast, filming it from different angles. Did they really need to film her breast so closely to show how proud she is of her breast? Was that really necessary? She portrays the 'crazy bitch' role well enough already. I personally think that topless scene wasn't necessary.

5. [+136][-87] I seriously don't get people who think that way

6. [+115][-88] There are a lot of freaks in Twitter

7. [+89][-13] The context of that scene --> Park Yeonjin: I was the one who bought that shirt of his that you're wearing right now (You broke bitchㅋㅋ I'm the woman who picks and buys things he owns. The only thing you can be proud of is your body, we're not in the same level). Choi Hyejeong: Ah really? You take it, then (You're right, the only thing I can be proud of is my body. Wanna see it? It's to die for, right? Jeon Jaejoon is mine). That's exactly why the topless scene was necessary.

8. [+76][-18] That tweet is right. Producers are men of power. There are a lot of rookie actresses overseas who have to film nude scene for validation. There are also a lot of people who want to see those rookie actresses' nudes. Sexual assault and harassment often take place on filming set. Was that necessary? I think they could've delivered their intention in a whole different way

The topless scene in The Glory

March 15, 2023

Jaehyun , nct , NCT127 , pann

Jaehyun doesn't get stubble, his skin tone is light, his hair is really thick, and his skin is so good that I don't think he gets acnes at all. It's legendary;;

pann

[+124][-14]

1. [+46][-0] He said it himself that both his parents have good skin and have never gotten any acnes in their life. His hair is thick, he takes that after his father. His parents inherit him the traits that can't be bought with moneyㄷㄷ

2. [+37][-0] How is it possible for him to not have stubble at all...?

3. [+30][-1] The fact that he has no stubble and his hair is really thick is legendary... You can't buy that with money.

4. [+25][-0] His hair 1

5. [+21][-0] .

I think the reason why Jaehyun's skin looks like baby's skin is because he has no stubble

March 15, 2023

Cha Jooyoung , The Glory , theqoo

Q: There are rumors that you used CG and a double in the topless scene

A: I've been waiting for this day to come. I finally can speak up regarding this matter. I had a lot of discussions with the script-writers and the producer, there are 'fixed' scenes that I had to film the moment I decided to play the role of Hyejeong. I personally think these scenes are very important. In the series, Hyejeong had a breast augmentation. Since I have never gotten one in real life, we used CG for the breast part. However, I exposed a lot of my skin in that scene, too. We had the double prepared, CG prepared, and also myself prepared. I put my heart and soul into all the important parts in the second part of the series. I did have concerns about filming it because it's not just your typical topless scene. We used a double for the shower scene. However, in the scene where Hyejeong took off her shirt, that was my body and a little bit of CG on top of it.

Q: What do you feel after the scene was aired?

A: It raised a huge question mark for myself. I had to gain weight for the show and I looked different from how I usually looked. I wasn't burdened by that, but there are some points that I felt I could've done better.

Q: That scene quickly became an issue after it aired. Do you regret it?

A: I personally think I did what I had to do. That scene and that role were crucial.

Q: Were there moments when you hesitated about the role after you read the script?

A: No at all. I personally think that scene was very crucial for Hyejeong's role. Hyejeong is a character who doesn't have anything else besides her body. She is always belittled and looked down by her friends, but she had nothing to lose in that scene. We all thought Hyejeong was very cool in that scene. The whole crew was very considerate as well.

theqoo

-That scene describes Hyejeong really well...

-I don't think we have to worry about actresses filming nude scenesㅋㅋㅋ I'm sure they already think thoroughly before taking the role, they're not kids afterallㅋㅋ

-I personally hate nude scenes, but I think that scene is very crucial for Hyejeong's role...

-She said, 'I've been waiting for this day to come'. Why does that sound so funny to me? Imagine how frustrated she must've been, she wanted to let all people knowㅋㅋㅋㅋ

-I love how she nailed this whole interview like a girlboss she is

-That scene was very crucial for Hyejeong's role. That was the first time she tried to stand up against Park Yeonjin. I can totally understand why she took off that clothes with no doubt there.

-I seriously still don't understand why that scene became so controversial...

-I was f*cking amazed by that scene. Not because of her nude, but because of her attitude towards Yeonjin.

-She sounds very smart. It really shows how much she adores her role as Hyejeong.

-Hul... I had no idea that was CG

'The Glory' Cha Jooyoung talks about her topless scene, "My body+CG+a double, I didn't hesitate at all"

March 15, 2023

Monday, March 13, 2023

DKZ , Kyoungyoon , theqoo

Kyungyoon is a born believer. He had no freedom to choose his own religion. The moment he was born, he was already in JMS. This is why we need to hear the perspective from his mother's side, too. We also need to ask her about the cafe she owns, Zelkova cafe.

D: How did you fall into JMS?

KY's Mom: I used to go to a Presbyterian Church, however, The Bible didn't really touch me back then. I lived my life in frustration. That's when my younger sister (Kyungyoon's aunt) introduced me to JMS' doctrine and I felt like I was awakened. I felt like they had the answer to all questions that other churches couldn't answer.

D: Have you watched 'In The Name of God: A Holy Betrayal?'

KY's Mom: I heard it from people around me. However, I was a follower of JMS for over 20 years. I believed in everything he said. I was afraid to realize that all of the things I have been believing so far are just lie. That's why I still don't have the courage to watch it.

D: Does that mean you're still a follower of JMS?

KY's Mom: Kyungyoon called me, he was crying. He said, "We've been fooled." I was very confused, but, to me, no religion is above my son. My son is my priority. I will do anything I can for Yoon-ie.

Kyungyoon's dad said, "What's so important about religion at this point? Not only leaving this cult, but I can also do way more than that for him." He continued, "I won't talk about this religion again in the future. I won't even go anywhere near the church. Believe me."

D: You run a cafe called Zelkova?

KY's mom: In 2020, my sister opened a new church. She received a lot of support from JMS' foundation. The cafe and the church are next to each other, but they have separate entrances. It is not true that there are connecting doors in the cafe that lead to the church. The two buildings are not connected at all.

D: There are allegations that missionary work is conducted in that cafe

D: I opened that cafe to earn money for living costs. The monthly rent is 200,000 KRW (The deposit is 2M KRW). I even made the lightboard myself, it's true, though, that I imitated his handwriting on it. I designed the whole place myself. The whole cafe only has 3 tables.

D: We also heard that you play the Hymn in the cafe?

KY's Mom: Around 1 to 2 groups of DKZ's fans come to the cafe every week. It made me realize how famous my son is. I am really grateful to them. It doesn't make sense that I'm doing missionary work on them, that's not true at all. I never played the Hymn in my cafe. I don't know why people would lie about things like that.

D: Does the dog that Kyoungyoon raise have something to do with JMS?

KY's Mom: There are a lot of groundless rumors now. The puppies he's raising are rescued. One is named 'Gu-won' because it was rescued from the street and the other one is named 'Haeng-bok' with hope that it will live happily. I hope people would stop twisting stories now.

D: Your younger sister is a Pastor. We are curious about how she became one.

KY's Mom: My sister attended a seminary at a Providence church. She became a Pastor after going through several processes. Paying JMS with sexual intercourse (to become a Pastor)? That doesn't make sense. He doesn't even have more than 10 followers in Yeong-deok. The only JMS followers there are my family and some elderly from the neighborhood. That doesn't make sense.

"I don't have any courage to look at my son. This is not Kyoungyoon's fault. It's just that he happened to have bad parents. That's why I'm really sorry towards him. This wouldn't have happened to him if I weren't his mom. I want him to return to his normal life as soon as possible. I am sincerely sorry."

theqoo

-I can feel Kyoungyoon's sincerity in his interview, but I don't think his mom is willing to leave the cult despite knowing the truth. Please, watch the show. Even your son has already watched it. You said you're willing to do anything for your son, let alone leaving the cult. But I don't think you sound like someone who's going to leave any time soon...

-I mean, she has been following him for more than 20 years. It wouldn't be easy to change her mind now. I read the interview Dispatch did with Kyoungyoon, he sounds like he was really considering to leave the cult unlike his motherㅋㅋㅋ

-I think she just needs more time to process all of this. Let's just wait. We can't expect her to just leave after believing in JMS for more than 20 years. I really hope she would leave the cult, though.

-She hasn't even watched the show because she's afraid to learn that everything she has been believing so far are just lie... How do you expect her to leave the cult.

-The fact that she hasn't even watched the documentary...

-If I were Kyoungyoon, I would be very exhausted and frustrated. Just imagine... Being born into a cult and only learned the truth when I got older. I decided to leave the cult but my mother still can't let go... Not to mention that the whole world now knows and are pointing their fingers on my mother...ㅠㅠㅠ I hope all of JMS' followers will leave the cult soon, get back to their normal life and family, and gain some strengthㅠㅠ

-I don't think she's willing to leave the cult, though. Despite saying that she's willing to do anything for his sonㅠㅠ

-I feel like she's just doing this interview because his son is in a big trouble and doing an interview might save his career...? Well, I hope, at least, his son leave the cult...

-I don't think she can leave the cult... Like ever...

Dispatch's interview with DKZ Kyoungyoon's mother

March 13, 2023

DKZ , Kyoungyoon , theqoo

D: Let's talk about Wolmyeong-dong

KY: I went there around 3 to 4 times when I was in primary school.

D: Have you ever met Jung Myeong-seok?

KY: I have seen him in Wolmyeong-dong.

Kyungyoon admitted that he has seen Jung Myeong-seok in person around 3 to 4 times in Wolmyeong-dong back when he was in primary school.

Jung Myeong-seok escaped from South Korea in the year Kyungyoon was born (2000). He was arrested in the year Kyungyoon enrolled in primary school (2008). He was released in 2018, just when Kyungyoon was about to graduate from high school. There must've been a lot of news about Jung Myeong-seok, and he still trusted him?

Dispatch also attached an explanation about Jung Myeong-seok's time line. JMS was arrested and prisoned in the same year Kyungyoon enrolled to primary school (2008) and was released in the same year Kyungyoon graduated from high school (2018). There was no possible way Kyungyoon met him in person in Wolmyeong-dong when he was in primary school.

Jung Myeong-seok was arrested in China and brought back to South Korea in 2008 for statutory rape, rape, assault, etc. He was sentenced to 10 years in prison and was released on February 2018.

If you do some research, you'll find that JMS was in prison from 2008 to 2018. There is no way Kyungyoon had met him when he was still an underage student. It doesn't make sense unless he said he met JMS when he already became an adult.

theqoo

-That was from when he was really young. It's normal for him to get it all mixed up.

-Even if he corrected his statement, saying that he saw JMS when he was in pre-school, it still doesn't make sense because JMS was on the run at that time...

-It happened when he was in pre-school or early years of primary school, of course he gets it all mixed up. Why are you guys trying so hard to find something to blame him?

-Well, do you guys remember exactly everything that happened when you were in primary school?

-He only remembers seeing JMS when he was really young, that's probably why he said he was in primary school at that time...

-It's normal for him to remember things incorrectly... I mean, I can't even remember exactly what happened when I was really young

-Do you guys remember what happened when you were 8??

-JMS escaped in 1999. It's either he lied about seeing JMS when he was younger or he actually met JMS after being released from jail...

-It doesn't add up... He was born in 2000 and JMS escaped from South Korea in 1999. Maybe he only saw him in videos.

-That means he actually have never seen JMS in person. Maybe he only saw him from videos and mistaken it...

-You guys are acting like detectives...ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

An error in the timeline of the interview Dispatch did with DKZ's Kyoungyoon regarding JMS

March 13, 2023

DKZ , Kyoungyoon , theqoo

We asked DKZ's Kyoungyoon straight-forwardly and he answered in a low voice.
"Yes. It was JMS"

He revealed that he was already a follower of JMS ever since he was still in his mother's womb.
"I was a born-believer. I'd hold hands with my mother to go there"

Kyoungyoon lowered his head and didn't speak for awhile. Some time had passed and as if he had made a decision, he started talking.

"It's a relief that I discovered the truth, even if it's late. I'm still worried about my parents, though. Especially, my mom, she has a huge faith because she had been a follower for over 20 years. I hope she can overcome this."

Dispatch arranged a meeting with Kyoungyoon and had 2 rounds of interviews on March 8th and 10th. On the 9th, Kyoungyoon had to leave for Yeongdok-gun, North Gyeongsan. He shared the conversation he had with his parents.

The purpose of this interview is not for 'clarification'. In this report, we deliver their emotions, expressions, confessions, reflections, and apology just as it is. For this reason, we report this news in QnA format.

Lastly, we also add the perspectives of people who have been doing research about this cult. Is Jung Myeongseok the perpetrator? Are all his followers also the perpetrators? What do we need to do as a society?

What makes them drawn to JMS?

#Encounter with Kyoungyoon.

Kyoungyoon's mother attended a Presbyterian church. His aunt (His mother's younger sister), coincidentally came across a Providence church as she worked. She was convinced because she was told "It's a place that teaches the Bible really well." Just like that, his aunt joined JMS. This took time back in 1994.

Dispatch: We are really curious about how you came across JMS.

KY: I followed my mother around a lot as a child. We went to my aunt's place. I remember my family and some elders from the neighborhood would gather there, listen to sermons, have some meals, and then go home. That's how I used to spend my weekend.

D: Is your aunt the pastor?

KY: Yes. I heard she studied Theology and became a pastor. At first, she did evangelization at home. When I was in pre-school, she started to do it in a church placed on the 3rd floor of a small building.

Kyoungyoon's aunt opened a church in early February 2020. It was right next to the cafe that Kyoungyoon's mother owns. Recently, several allegations regarding his mom's cafe and aunt's church have been spread online. (We will talk about this more in an interview with his mom below)

D: How did you get involved in JMS?

KY: I heard JMS' sermon from a video. According to my aunt, JMS is someone who delivers messages from God. She told me he was an amazing person who has read The Bible more than 2,000 times.

D: An amazing person? Does she believe that he was a Messiah?

KY: I watched 'In The Name of God: A Holy Betrayal'. I noticed that he claimed himself as Messiah. When I saw that clip, I thought to myself, "He must be a crazy man." This is hard to believe, but I had no idea at all back then. I know I sound pathetic saying this, but that's how it was.

D: You had no idea back then?

KY: I remember watching that sermon video. Before claiming himself as Messiah, he baited us for 2 to 3 hours. A lot of people believed in him. That's how it was. It was some type of gaslighting.

D: Why did you fall for it?

KY: I didn't fall for it because I believed he was Messiah. I fell for it because my aunt told me that he was the person who delivers messages from God the best. I have to agree that it was like a brain-washing. I started thinking, 'That means he's just like... a Messiah'.

D: To say it's 'brain-washing' is...

KY: I don't understand it either. Nobody would believe him if he blatantly said he was Messiah and that following him will get you to heaven. He doesn't approach people that way. His approach was slow, little by little.

D: For example?

KY: People keep on talking about how amazing he is through their experience with him, etc. They would say, "I had to go through surgery for this, but his prayer healed me," and then even proceeded to show their medical record as an evidence. There are also tons of people who say, "He solves all my problems," etc.

D: How could you believe that?

KY: Honestly, I didn't have the freedom to choose my own religion. It was my religion because it was what my family believed... I had no one to compare or discuss it. However, I think my mom's faith got even bigger after she had me.

D: What do you mean?

KY: When I was in 2nd grade, I got sick. I couldn't eat anything, I kept on throwing up. Pastors came from far places to pray for me. I was supposed to go through a surgery 3 days after that, but they did another check-up and found there was nothing wrong with me. I think that's when she started to believe even more.

D: Do you also think the same?

KY: I thought it was just a disease that gets better as time passes by. The timing happened to be just right. Just like how we get COVID and get better in 3-4 days with medications. God didn't heal me just because the Pastor prayed for me. Now that I think about it, I was very childish.

(NB: Let me know if I should translate the rest, because the original post from Theqoo only attaches the first picture)

theqoo

-What's the point in all of this when his parents still haven't gotten back to their right mind...

-I read the whole article and I can totally understand him. I don't want to say anything either because he already left JMS. It's not like he followed JMS by choice. He was a born-believer. He's just another victim.

-His aunt was a Pastor...

-Do you seriously think leaving a religion is that easy?

-I feel really bad for himㅠㅠ Who would leave that religion if they still get hate comments anyway? If he's lying, I'm sure the truth will always be revealed in the end. Stop saying he's a perpetrator when he already left that behind, that's only turning yourself into perpetrators.

-I feel really bad for him... I don't know why people are leaving hate comments...

-I feel really bad for him because he was born into that cult...

-Did you guys even read the whole article?

-After reading the whole article, I can understand him. He didn't have the freedom to choose his religion.

-I read the whole article and I think I'm gonna stop leaving hate comments for him

-Honestly, I don't believe him...

"JMS no longer exists" ... 'DKZ' Kyoungyoon, how he escaped from JMS as a born-believer

March 13, 2023

Wednesday, March 8, 2023

Baby Monster , NewJeans , pann

seems to be a very great strategy.

Every time Baby Monster releases teasers, I would think, 'They're still releasing teasers?. I'm getting sick of it.

pann
[+530][-29]

1. [+115][-2] I got curious at first, but I'm losing all the excitement as it goes. The girls are talented. But I somehow can already predict how the group's gonna be because they're from YG.

2. [+109][-2] I agree... They keep on releasing teasers

3. [+78][-8] I'm a Bunnies and I think it was a very well-made decision for the company to release New Jeans' debut MV with no prior announcement.

4. [+59][-1] Whoa, I couldn't agree more. At first, I was so excited every time Baby Monster dropped their teasers. But my excitement is gone after I realized that the teasers were for a survival show. I'm no longer waiting now.

5. [+34][-5] I'm a fan from another idol group and I'm not interested in Baby Monster. However, companies have their own way to debut their artists. You can't just set New Jeans as the standards and judge the other idols for having different strategies, it's very sickening and weird. Companies usually release teasers or clips before debuting idol groups, that's the traditional way. I'm sure if an idol group debuts with no prior announcement, just like New Jeans did, you guys will hate and critics them for copying New Jeans. Can't we just support New Jeans as New Jeans? I know they have great concepts and songs, but I don't get why you guys feel like you gotta compare them to every single girl groups that exist.

After looking at Baby Monster, the fact that New Jeans released their MV with no teasers...

March 08, 2023

pann

This is crazy;;

Lee Jae-myung's nephew stalked the victim and stabbed her 19 times with a knife until she passed. He also murdered the victim's mother by stabbing her 18 times with a knife.

Lee Jae-myung defended his nephew, saying that this case was a 'Dating Violence".

It was revealed that Lee Jae-myung's nephew had been stalking the victim for several years. He couldn't accept that the victim wanted to end things with him. Then, he proceeded to buy a knife over 30cm and 5 rolls of tape from a supermarket.

He hid that and went to her house. He rang the bell, but there was no answer.

He felt like no one was home, so he waited until the victim and her family came home.

The victim and her family eventually came home at 11.30 PM.

Lee Jae-myung's nephew held onto the victim and begged for her to let him go inside.

The victim let him inside. Lee Jae-myung's nephew asked for the victim's parents' blessing to get married for nearly 50 minutes. The victim's parents opposed the idea.

That's when Lee Jae-myung's nephew pulled out the knife from his bag;

He had the intention to murder the victim's parents if they didn't allow him to marry her, indicated by the purchase of a knife and tapes.

He taped the victim's parents' hands and started swaying the knife.

The first person he planned to murder was the victim's father. However, he managed to escape by jumping off the 5th floor of the apartment to report the whole situation to the police.

That was when Lee Jae-myung's nephew started to stab the victim 19 times and her mother 18 times, causing them to pass.

This all happened on Parents' Day.

Afterward, the victim's father was diagnosed with a third-degree disability. The victim's grandparents suffered a huge shock from this incident and passed away.

This case could've been prevented. Lee Jae-myung's nephew kept on bothering the victim by visiting her at her workplace and her parents had already requested protection from the police.

However, the police refused. After the incident took place, the police plead with her family to not speak about them refusing to protect because it might cause them to get fired.

After that, Lee Jae-myung's nephew was assigned a public defender. He requested for a psychological evaluation and prepared a lot for the trial, but his appointment was suddenly canceled before the first trial.

It was revealed that Lee Jae-myung canceled his appointment because he was going to take over the case.

Without a diagnosis from a professional, Lee Jae-myung said that his nephew is weak both mentally and physically and that the crime was an accident.

However, the crime was so cruel and in the end, Lee Jae-myung's nephew received a life sentence.

At that time, no one knew about this case. He only told this to actress Kim Boo-seon. He lied to her about his marital status, claiming that he was single, approached her, and had sexual intercourse with her.

Later, Lee Jae-myung denied all the dating rumors of him and Kim Boo-seon. However, Kim Boo-seon had evidence that they had sexual intercourse and use it to reveal the truth about the case to the court.

After looking into it, the court confirmed the truth. Lee Jae-myung admitted to all of it. To prevent things from getting bigger, as it was nearing the presidential election at the time, he apologized, "I am sorry for defending 'Dating violence' as a lawyer." The bereaved families sued him.

Now, he's receiving backlash as karma as he tried to ride the 'School violence' issue. (NB: Jung Soon-shin, Chief of The National Office of Investigation, son was revealed to be a perpetrator of school violence)

Looks like his nephew learned it from him.

At least Jung Soon-shin resigned from his position right the day after the news was reported.

Politician Jung Chungrae's son sexually harassed a female middle school student. (NB: He made a public appearance to apologize)

Lee Jae-myung's son was involved in illegal gambling. His son himself admitted that he was also involved in prostitution, however Lee Jae-myung denied it.

"It was suspicious of him to admit that he was involved in prostitution. I checked the truth with him and it was all false. I have no way of knowing, but he swore it was the truth"

pann
[+1,324][-420]

1. [+642][-161] Lee Jae-myung has always been a psychopathㅡㅡ When he was younger, he dreamt of becoming a teacher. Growing up, he got hit way a lot by his teacher which made him dream of becoming a teacher so that he can hit children.

My first ever dream as a student from a countryside school is to become a 'teacher'. You're wondering why I wanted to become a teacher? It may sound stupid, but I got hit a lot by my teacher that I wanted to become one so that I can hit children. As a revenge? Dreams change as you get older^^

2. [+596][-126] ???? Frankly speaking, he doesn't even deserve to be called a human;; The fact that he defended a serial killer, saying that it was just a 'Dating violence' is the most shocking for me

3. [+506][-117] Guys, this is why you shouldn't be in a relationship with someone who has records of driving under the influence and abandoning animals. This is the ugly truth. People who drive under the influence know that they might kill someone once they hold the steering wheel, and yet they still decide to drive. They tend to be violent!!! On the other hand, people who abandon animals lack of sympathy. They are either sociopaths or psychopaths. Lee Jae-myung is a criminal who has those two records.